move on to bob you wore a romney supporter a clear winner tonight? >> i don't think there was, i think it was a draw. >> why? >> i think we need to learn more about both candidates within the next two debates i don't thinks there was another debating. >> would you say that he did enough was convincing enough to get voters to lead in his direction? >> i think he could be a little more convincing. >> we will send it back to you in the studio. >> paul lisneck joins us tonight for political analysis, i saw the first 50 minutes, it looked to me like the governor handed the president has launched tonight. >> and the first 50 minutes romney came out crisp and firing even if you may not agree with what he said. >> what i think romijn daetz strategy was tonight was he decided to basically forget about the right wing of the party there was nothing that came out of his mouth that was going to feed the right wing he cut off the tee partiers it tonight, tonight was moderate to mitt and that's what it takes to play to the independence in this country. independence